Sonntagskind8

nur so nebenbei: gestern bei mir im oc: 5x die 12 in 5 coups!!!! (also ich spiele ja schon ein paar jahre, aber das hab ich noch nie gesehen!!!) kann mir da mal jemand die formel für diese wahrscheinlichkeit posten? danke!

tach alle zusammen! ich spiele jetzt seit ca. 4 jahren roulette und hab noch nie ein spiel im gleichsatz gespielt... nach meinem letzten "großen platzer" habe ich mich dann doch mal hingesetzt und etwas nachgedacht und sogar etwas "akzeptables" gefunden! nun zum eigentlichen thema: spielt hier irgendein spieler der schon lange spielt und dessen saldo noch im plus ist mit progressionen? -oder spielt ihr immer im gleichsatz? ich will überhaupt nix wissen von "euren privaten" spielen! einfach nur ob mit progi oder gleichsatz... danke für eure antworten! mfg sonntagskind

hallo alle zusammen! nur ein gedanke: warum will man mit einem system immer gewinnen? es reicht doch wenn man "einfach auf 0 bleibt" und kapital umsetzt!? ich will damit sagen: wenn man sich ein system bastelt mit dem man weder gewinn noch verlust erwirtschaftet kann man damit ja im oc seinen bonus freispielen! is doch auch schon net schlecht? was meint ihr dazu?

hallo, hab hier erst kürzlich von einem spiel auf heiße/kalte zahlen gelesen das sich net schlecht angehört hat (bis auf die progression)... dazu wollte ich nochmal nur auf die kalten zahlen eingehen: ich hab mir mal gedacht da die kalten zahlen kalt sind weil sie schon lange nicht mehr kamen spiele ich darauf denn sie müssen ja bald wieder erscheinen... natürlich habe ich mit einer progression gespielt ging furchtbar schief! (war ja zu erwarten) hab das thema nur mal eröffnet das sich der ein oder andere mit der selben idee ein bisschen geld sparen kann mfg sonntagskind

hallo! da ich sehr lange auf die ec gespielt habe wollte ich mal ein spiel hier reinschreiben (ich spiele es nicht mehr und da ich mir damit relativ viel arbeit gemacht hatte will ich die idee net einfach in einer schublade "vergammeln" lassen!) hab das spiel mal ne zeitlang im oc gespielt. zum spiel: erklärt mit farben / kann aber auch auf die anderen ec gespielt werden es kommt rot nach schwarz ich setze mit der unten beschriebenen progi 3x dagegen (auf schwarz) und beim 4ten mal mit (auf rot) das heist man verliert "nur" eine 4er reihe (in diesem fall 4x rot) kommt nochmal rot (also 5x) bleibt man auf 0 und es wird gewartet bis schwarz erscheint / oder progi von vorn anfangen - also wieder mit 1 auf schwarz setzen dann nach schwarz das gleiche spiel auf rot... bei verlust kann man dann die nächste stufe der progi anfangen diese muss dann im 2ten und 3ten satz 5x gewonnen werden damit der verlust wieder ausgeglichen ist 1) 1 2 4 7 2) 1 3 6 10 3) 1 4 8 13 4) 2 5 10 16 usw... natürlich sollte man sich regeln aufstellen / wie z.b. nach einem verlust nicht erhöhen und auf der selben stufe bleiben bis ein gewinn eintritt und erst dann erhöhen, um mehreren verlusten hintereinander nicht allzuviel kapital zu opfern.... na ja, guckt einfach mal selbst! mfg sonntagskind

so jetzt hab ich ein paar minuten zeit... also, ich erkläre jetzt ma das ganze spiel genau (ich werde es eh nicht spielen da es mir einfach zu teuer ist) und ma abgesehen davon hat evtl. einer von euch schon das selbe oder was ähnliches gespielt und kann ma ein paar "echtgeld-erfahrungen" posten also: is eigentl. recht einfach progi: wie oben beschrieben / entweder 19 stufen (so hat man bei jedem treffer min. 1 stück gewinn) oder 20 stufen (da sind ein paar nullrunden dabei wärend der progi) satzsignal: sobald manque nach passe erscheint setzt man 1x auf d (25-36) sollte danach wieder manque erscheinen wird pausiert bis passe erscheint und dann wieder nach dem ersten mal manque auf d gesetzt. oder anders herum: beschrieben wie oben nur manque und passe vertauscht mit satz auf p (1-12) ach ja: die progression nur auf ein dutzend anwenden! (also net mit einer progi auf p und d zugleich setzen) das war´s schon! viel spaß beim prüfen mfg sonntagskind

rein mathematisch bringt das keinen Vorteil / alles nur bauchgefühl!!!

eigentlich net... / hab gerade gesehen da waren auch noch zahlen vom cc dabei... hier nochma nur zahlen von random.org 240.000 abstand 0 zu 0: 81,79,11,38,27,5,11,10,12,26,9,2,9,48,35,1,37,18,93,24,0,1,75,13,27,19,17,3,37,8 8,22,32,136,24,16,74,52,65,71,75,4,2,4,44,5,26,0,155,59,4,16,24,2,55,5,8,18,61,4 2,25,31,83,2,17,47,16,2,29,34,2,96,7,76,53,10,77,53,22,52,52,8,34,49,83,24,23,58 ,71,73,46,3,39,6,14,16,52,15,0,38,92,9,44,83,6,30,9,59,71,0,0,83,9,218,26,43,3,3 1,24,31,5,79,32,43,0,39,2,61,18,8,24,5,75,107,14,19,29,18,8,13,100,6,73,5,22,63, 1,73,146,113,166,58,3,7,113,42,54,0,97,9,2,5,1,4,61,9,1,8,23,19,12,34,6,0,21,112 ,2,2,11,86,32,17,5,51,17,13,25,2,2,71,112,27,51,16,23,44,12,9,23,97,7,3,22,27,10 ,23,4,51,22,14,0,29,9,13,9,37,6,8,20,24,19,33,79,7,76,54,98,23,106,17,18,63,19,5 2,1,71,19,51,53,118,1,49,52,1,216,19,27,18,63,6,24,30,131,8,4,23,75,1,41,72,4,11 ,25,46,4,31,47,21,0,29,113,16,203,13,47,7,14,56,31,13,23,10,51,71,2,34,1,32,38,2 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damit mein prg mal wieder zum einsatz kommt : ausgewertet aus 92 000 zahlen von random.org abstände von 0 zu 0: 58,22,18,9,12,15,45,53,70,13,10,38,13,9,101,30,27,19,0,72,61,14,2,4,101,19,42,9, 15,61,6,83,3,61,96,21,8,66,54,33,18,43,22,52,9,16,23,17,45,28,1,13,38,25,49,10,2 3,1,1,12,21,57,7,86,17,66,0,125,21,13,206,23,19,84,176,61,108,51,56,1,37,10,3,17 ,66,64,23,33,2,6,5,8,27,92,38,8,156,84,57,35,41,34,70,8,53,5,34,7,16,49,12,68,21 ,13,34,10,31,1,36,35,1,157,81,3,0,56,55,34,44,15,39,47,51,15,1,14,12,54,4,18,19, 3,12,116,24,63,17,18,13,11,81,40,16,20,93,24,28,134,94,78,1,1,9,35,29,31,9,33,40 ,0,6,63,11,4,24,6,20,23,7,15,94,17,15,31,7,19,37,59,8,9,13,3,1,21,47,1,9,28,8,23 ,48,14,59,25,38,3,58,19,137,9,41,5,7,1,45,1,16,31,48,33,3,3,13,22,31,44,19,12,38 ,37,60,22,6,6,80,29,19,16,13,52,4,115,24,2,65,2,43,3,37,43,97,31,16,16,60,0,31,2 6,33,26,1,10,65,51,32,49,35,10,28,52,22,14,22,0,41,9,137,29,56,100,82,15,1,79,9, 135,20,23,6,41,1,75,24,7,47,30,49,29,142,57,30,17,8,20,103,39,54,89,104,25,109,1 70,107,48,0,74,48,179,3,12,0,6,6,12,14,21,4,17,4,4,40,8,56,52,63,31,19,104,28,80 ,132,5,1,7,79,150,19,106,25,21,27,41,98,21,12,61,17,26,47,28,49,28,60,30,44,66,5 0,26,9,46,157,56,32,9,15,22,58,8,22,2,39,106,58,125,2,79,128,40,4,99,41,12,8,51, 5,67,101,76,15,125,15,20,2,48,15,107,32,8,35,4,62,55,38,19,58,128,73,3,8,3,25,15 ,41,68,24,167,10,59,135,57,14,60,22,1,1,68,78,29,14,3,9,12,16,13,66,5,23,0,6,30, 53,24,81,32,5,34,4,32,71,148,70,21,25,49,15,34,69,30,8,79,60,27,37,14,7,14,21,13 ,2,18,137,58,22,18,9,12,15,45,53,70,13,10,38,13,9,101,30,27,19,0,72,61,14,2,4,10 1,19,42,9,15,61,6,83,3,61,96,21,8,66,54,33,18,125,18,0,83,41,67,46,13,55,9,30,51 ,25,7,154,16,6,19,22,64,9,0,66,17,6,56,24,159,8,29,42,14,13,20,27,12,135,24,40,1 17,27,78,41,7,27,64,41,144,21,20,57,27,15,41,32,4,57,25,3,16,0,9,10,8,49,42,0,29 ,2,80,71,53,6,30,19,46,185,16,8,1,20,67,54,34,99,80,113,24,12,73,11,16,69,63,21, 51,126,33,38,52,2,9,54,15,10,0,7,59,11,121,4,69,72,25,7,36,7,50,54,48,22,33,0,8, 8,25,5,40,27,42,11,5,10,7,87,13,30,62,132,54,32,35,57,14,23,18,98,125,2,38,27,18 ,17,20,13,10,10,8,54,76,31,22,41,99,43,179,4,6,12,80,21,10,5,31,47,2,26,25,102,3 3,51,2,199,40,41,25,55,24,159,8,29,42,14,13,20,27,12,135,24,40,117,27,78,41,7,27 ,64,41,144,21,20,57,27,15,41,32,4,57,25,3,16,0,9,10,8,49,42,0,29,2,80,71,53,6,30 ,19,46,185,16,8,1,20,67,54,34,99,80,113,24,12,73,11,16,69,63,21,51,126,33,38,52, 2,9,54,15,10,0,7,59,11,121,4,69,72,25,7,36,7,50,54,48,22,33,0,8,8,25,5,40,27,42, 11,5,10,7,87,13,30,62,132,54,32,35,57,14,23,18,98,125,2,38,27,18,17,20,13,10,10, 8,54,76,31,22,41,99,43,179,4,6,12,80,21,10,5,31,47,2,26,25,102,33,51,2,199,40,41 ,25,48,69,56,21,30,14,16,15,23,20,4,25,48,8,5,31,7,55,73,0,25,4,14,29,24,1,18,25 ,59,17,110,2,141,23,21,101,18,5,1,23,0,19,16,19,10,29,34,70,1,61,25,75,11,84,16, 18,100,31,2,74,47,11,20,56,6,18,67,46,27,19,26,186,31,58,40,25,25,13,15,13,1,71, 92,14,11,28,16,31,11,76,89,22,35,45,5,5,102,4,19,11,13,8,58,2,40,28,48,63,237,18 ,0,56,76,68,73,19,6,4,113,90,4,12,66,13,13,41,28,13,5,60,61,65,32,22,20,19,200,1 0,105,13,4,51,8,29,10,140,27,21,124,21,20,22,4,28,17,86,53,22,43,38,12,38,67,124 ,18,12,53,113,128,20,7,70,6,0,1,44,22,5,107,32,12,43,11,40,4,48,15,54,99,7,86,5, 48,22,180,15,38,44,63,174,81,79,11,38,27,5,11,10,12,26,9,2,9,48,35,1,37,18,93,24 ,0,1,75,13,27,19,17,3,37,88,22,32,136,24,16,74,52,65,71,75,4,2,4,44,5,26,0,155,5 9,4,16,24,2,55,5,8,18,61,42,25,31,83,2,17,47,16,2,29,34,2,96,7,76,53,10,77,53,22 ,52,52,8,34,49,83,24,23,58,71,73,46,3,39,6,14,16,52,15,0,38,92,9,44,83,6,30,9,59 ,71,0,0,83,9,218,26,43,3,31,24,31,5,79,32,43,0,39,2,61,18,8,24,5,75,107,14,19,29 ,18,8,13,100,6,73,5,22,63,1,73,146,113,166,58,3,7,113,42,54,0,97,9,2,5,1,4,61,9, 1,8,23,19,12,34,6,0,21,112,2,2,11,86,32,17,5,51,17,13,25,2,2,71,112,27,51,16,23, 44,12,9,23,97,7,3,22,27,10,23,4,51,22,14,0,29,9,13,9,37,6,8,20,24,19,33,79,7,76, 54,98,23,106,17,18,63,19,52,1,71,19,51,53,118,1,49,52,1,216,19,27,18,63,6,24,30, 131,8,4,23,75,1,41,72,4,11,25,46,4,31,47,21,0,29,113,16,203,13,47,7,14,56,31,13, 23,10,51,71,2,34,1,32,38,22,6,5,6,3,67,37,32,26,4,92,37,89,4,22,16,11,19,51,47,1 ,134,36,71,5,67,2,15,4,59,39,96,14,72,16,51,6,16,3,133,96,19,30,38,82,3,7,16,51, 12,123,29,6,17,101,12,122,8,48,7,6,113,79,3,2,4,1,23,18,19,45,15,1,11,60,60,42,7 0,32,5,1,3,34,48,21,1,22,3,1,6,10,27,4,144,20,14,39,67,6,4,4,64,7,24,44,55,60,3, 5,2,5,28,75,19,4,62,38,7,16,94,33,112,13,77,4,60,129,3,28,28,14,35,16,64,26,5,1, 16,3,24,7,2,3,12,11,62,1,27,56,49,6,9,47,13,13,22,40,42,12,16,9,24,12,72,1,27,10 ,36,12,12,25,17,14,30,42,20,52,6,56,91,24,0,4,26,27,3,3,6,0,2,11,24,36,17,6,67,1 5,90,197,46,59,0,39,4,23,3,26,17,9,8,6,12,102,27,24,47,16,51,147,21,4,6,31,44,14 0,12,21,66,86,22,80,24,22,18,10,6,0,8,14,86,168,30,20,97,23,9,0,48,107,11,22,11, 16,17,88,4,28,165,3,16,58,17,94,23,3,35,22,11,30,5,2,96,28,56,66,57,5,51,30,4,24 ,48,28,48,127,16,25,42,66,21,27,44,27,116,95,49,8,1,19,13,2,5,52,53,17,34,39,18, 4,41,11,95,0,39,35,10,50,13,7,13,39,108,6,17,37,37,21,70,54,32,33,32,7,64,3,81,2 2,33,4,39,19,94,163,23,0,4,67,10,86,44,98,57,1,199,93,8,13,45,13,41,41,6,0,3,10, 44,41,48,27,99,41,24,3,1,20,95,29,127,28,13,88,68,6,21,57,57,1,62,8,157,11,141,1 6,43,39,0,5,45,19,2,14,54,28,8,13,1,26,186,48,13,2,96,7,9,13,136,18,79,7,49,75,2 9,13,1,24,57,20,38,30,9,1,5,37,25,4,155,53,18,35,8,38,35,10,67,32,19,43,27,8,9,2 3,25,33,19,32,38,36,15,31,46,27,11,109,27,29,25,102,65,7,29,21,21,32,38,93,44,18 0,73,8,50,40,23,40,3,0,4,4,85,17,45,4,46,33,10,88,76,8,29,62,20,34,22,9,12,11,11 1,48,3,55,39,1,1,134,57,20,25,15,4,3,27,38,25,19,16,19,4,1,14,91,13,11,41,9,82,2 3,48,90,22,2,8,100,18,39,18,5,131,47,26,119,82,15,169,5,31,19,6,27,88,92,4,3,50, 37,27,45,14,8,3,56,74,207,9,10,9,48,9,184,54,75,1,42,14,55,48,88,131,27,11,1,38, 6,155,40,20,16,0,9,10,7,153,57,29,58,16,12,49,4,63,155,38,3,49,32,5,90,12,19,75, 101,54,8,20,34,55,13,41,33,45,24,47,13,7,5,16,17,12,103,3,33,39,18,42,10,19,3,7, 47,38,47,14,23,19,9,14,15,77,7,18,27,10,55,35,45,127,29,10,2,86,23,30,93,30,13,1 3,2,18,53,3,7,16,10,11,249,70,1,2,8,46,5,3,59,25,3,15,99,46,15,1,35,59,27,64,29, 63,42,30,3,5,10,40,7,22,13,32,68,26,14,26,33,32,19,23,1,18,1,59,13,36,127,26,7,5 7,244,75,50,13,7,13,21,123,97,91,13,232,11,12,44,1,26,162,74,11,4,7,25,4,25,18,1 ,11,90,124,17,16,16,9,83,31,17,200,9,21,10,0,6,9,12,5,8,11,2,15,5,23,45,70,1,15, 59,2,3,81,5,32,65,14,25,10,9,0,53,74,7,65,12,127,19,17,20,11,7,7,18,80,62,74,19, 11,14,61,27,77,51,20,17,42,14,49,35,41,37,67,63,42,51,89,83,6,17,15,52,5,16,1,7, 54,98,18,9,39,36,68,21,5,1,17,47,6,80,76,59,22,33,81,4,60,30,29,9,30,2,11,30,27, 44,20,39,0,115,54,21,52,16,81,7,19,9,24,35,3,1,8,42,48,21,20,12,21,1,7,27,73,7,1 ,33,26,7,33,45,9,125,4,9,46,12,16,34,62,17,19,142,61,21,223,111,11,14,91,50,102, 40,3,56,9,20,38,5,2,30,66,3,75,46,0,127,34,9,1,9,17,61,1,50,14,14,101,33,19,31,5 2,19,115,13,12,185,31,70,130,54,3,7,19,20,0,14,31,14,7,42,73,33,45,37,2,2,39,17, 12,22,0,21,55,41,22,24,79,63,103,15,23,37,7,40,23,6,67,70,21,6,24,60,38,20,16,55 ,121,13,49,23,57,25,37,7,16,50,23,14,19,0,50,8,6,48,14,10,0,20,9,17,33,19,8,39,8 ,9,45,7,10,103,10,93,15,114,87,11,53,10,21,37,33,2,11,20,52,2,18,5,18,6,8,2,15,4 ,36,65,47,12,59,9,21,22,54 viel spaß damit!

hallo Duodecim! bin grad wieder ausm ulaub zurückgekommen... hab z.z. ziemlich viel um die ohren, aber ich schau das ich deinen "fragenkatalog" die nächsten tage mal abarbeite zu meiner progi: coup satz 0 kum gew 1 1 - 1 2 2 1 - 2 1 3 1 - 3 0 4 2 - 5 1 5 3 - 8 1 6 4 - 12 0 usw... bis tischlimit... ich werde am wochenende wieder anfangen zu spielen (auch ein spiel auf dutzend aber ein anderes als hier beschrieben) / mit diesem spiel hatte ich mal ziemlichen erfolg bis es dann ma schief ging. habe jetzt die regeln geändert und versuchs nochmal / da mach ich dann nen neuen beitrag im forum dafür auf... spielst du eigentl. auch? mfg sonntagskind

so, jetzt hab ich mal 280k zahlen ausgewertet (die progi bis zum limit gespielt): satzsignale: 141k platzer: 13 (beinahe platzer: 7) gewonnen: 105,5k verloren: 47k ------------------ ergebnis: +58,5k (das wär im durchschnitt 1 stück + bei jedem 5ten coup) hmm... ach ja: ich hab da letztens was von "marinas millionenspiel" hier im forum gelesen (das spiel ging ja auf ec nach bestimmten figuren) so ein figurenspiel (natürlich nicht das) spiele ich auch -eben nur auf dutzende. ich glaube es gibt !kein! spiel bei dem man immer -also jeden coup- setzt und damit noch gewinn machen kann! wegen meinem ergebnis da oben: hat von euch schon mal jemand was ähnliches ausgewertet? falls ja, schreibt doch ma kurz eure erfahrungen hier rein

jetzt mal ganz einfach erklärt: die verteilung der ec schaut so aus: aus 37.000 coups entstehen 18.500 einer- 9.250 zweier- 4.625 dreier- 2.312 vierer- usw. also: wenn du jetzt immer warten willst bis eine 10er serie entstanden ist bevor du die manrtingale setzt ist der einzige unterschied: du hast nur weniger satzsignale aber deine chancen sind die gleichen als wenn du gleich nach einem 1er anfängst zu setzen!

ja das ist ziemlich einfach: also bei 37k coups kommt: 18,5k einser-serien 9250 zweier- 4625 dreier- 2312 vierer- 1156 fünfer- usw... nur: wann wie was kommt ist nicht vorhersehbar

hallo goldkäfer! mein unfehlbarer tipp: lass dir deine ganze gewonnene kohle auszahlen! -sofort! und freu dich!!! nun kurz zu deinem spiel: ich weiß nicht was die leute immer mit der zero haben! sie ist nichts anderes als jede andere zahl! beim roulette geht es nicht um die zero sondern darum: es gibt 37 zahlen also 37 tipp- oder satzmöglichkeiten auf zahlen; und jetzt kommt der hammer: wenn du wirklich glück hast und dein tipp gewinnt dann bekommst du nicht das 36-fache deines einsatzes sonder nur das 35-fache! so einfach ist das ach ja: da du bestimmt meinen tipp nicht folgen wirst dir alles auszahlen zu lassen (falls du´s nicht schon wieder verspielt hast), möchte ich dich nur darauf hinweisen das es von kurt v. haller die sogennante "unverlierbare progression" da hast du die möglichkeit 160mal auf ein plein zu spielen (kostet insgesammt ca 1600 stücke) mein tipp: auf keinen fall spielen! schau dir einfach mal ein par authentische permanenzen durch (ich weiß: is langweilig -aber: man verliert dabei kein geld) und du wirst sehen: das geht schief mfg sonntagskind

das ist so doch nicht ganz richtig -oder? du meintest 300.000 gesetzte coups, denke ich...