Marigny and the Ecart

Mellis · Juli 22, 2010

Well that was all and thanks for being so polite and i did translate some replys - i am to old with to much real knowledge and experience to let some one to get to me.

I wish Sache read my other post and give me a comment regarding my other post about visual ballistics.

Take care and have fun.

O_o

sachse · Juli 22, 2010

Läuft hier ein Programm De>Engl und zurück?
sachse
Die Fehler sind nicht von mir.

Grund gefunden:

Hatte ein automatisches Übersetzungsprogramm im Hintergrund laufen und nun,

wo es abgeschaltet ist, sind auch die Fehler weg.

sachse

Faustan · Juli 22, 2010

@Sachse

"automatisches Übersetzungsprogramm "

Wie jetzt, hast dein Gehirn jetzt abgestellt? Scherz. Nee aber mal im Ernst, du bist doch Weltenbummler, da solltest'e Englisch doch im Schlaf beherrschen? :bye1:

Das wäre echt mal interessant zu erfahren, wer von unseren Dauerspielern und Profis gut bis schlecht Englisch kann, und ob hier englische Thread echt soo schlimm für die Mitglieder sind.

sachse · Juli 22, 2010

Mein Englisch habe ich von 1959-63 in der DDR gelernt.

Anwenden konnte ich es erst 18 Jahre später.

Dadurch hatte ich eine zu lange Zeit keine Übung.

Ich kann in der ganzen Welt mit den Worten, die ich beherrsche, alles erklären, was ich möchte.

Für einzelne Worte verwende ich einen Übersetzer.

Das Problem liegt bei mir im Verstehen - zumal wenn in den Casinos noch Lärm herrscht und die

Musik hämmert.

sachse

Faustan · Juli 22, 2010

Okay, weitermachen! *g

Nebenbei, vorbildlicher Thread so. Mellis war ja fertig, glaube ich, von daher wurde/wird die Sachdiskussion (der Monolog eher) nicht gestört.

Um doch noch etwas Sinnvolles in den Post zu packen.

Ich habe seine, Mellis, Software runtergeladen und durch 2 Anti-Viren Programme laufen lassen. Kein Fund. Zusätzl. habe ich die Dateien auch mittels virustotal.com testen lassen, 3 Ergebnisse, die aber bei selbstprogrammierten Softwares völlig normal sind.

Mein PC lebt und die Software läuft.

Die Software untersucht eine Permanenz auf den Ecart der jeweiligen EC. Also 3 Stränge. Man muss keine, wie Mellis es sagte, random.org Zahlen verwenden, es reicht wenn man seine Zahlen untereinander in eine Textdatei schreibt.

Spieltechnisch stehe zumindest ich noch etwas hilflos da, wann worauf zu setzen ist. Aus der Beobachtung der Software schliesse ich aber das man auf lange Serien spekulieren sollte. Also Paroli spielen. Gerade/Ungerade tanz allerdings aus der Reihe, ob's nur bei random.org so ist weiss ich nicht. Müsste man mal paar 10.000 Coups durchlassen.

:bye1:

Edit: Der Fairness halber nochmal in Englisch. :bye1:

Btw, this is a exemplary thread. Mellis said all he wanted to say, and the factual discussion (more an monolog) wasn't disturbed.

To put something valueable into my post:

@Mellis. Here I only describe your Software. I scanned it with Anti-virus softwares, and nothing unusual was found. On totalvirus.com they found three results. Heuristic type, regarding your .exe Pxxxxx, nothing to worry about.

For the game itself I still don't really know when to bet. I see after the Software shows the Ecart there are larger serie to happen. So I guess you would advise to bet on these bigger series, making a good ammount of chips on the end. ?

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Buk · Juli 23, 2010

the link doesnt work, mellis, it directs to a swedish customer site.

could please send it again.

thx

buk

baboon · Juli 23, 2010

https://www.bredbandsbolaget.se/portlet-b2-...atrmell/övrigt/

@mellis

your file seems to be offline, can you please re-upload!?

Hütchenspieler · Juli 23, 2010

Link ist o.k.

Gerade heruntergeladen.

Ich stell es hier mal rein:

LG

Hütchenspieler :bye1:

€roulette€ · Juli 23, 2010

Link ist o.k.
Gerade heruntergeladen.
Ich stell es hier mal rein:
LG
Hütchenspieler

danke, @hütchenspieler!

Mellis · Juli 23, 2010

Maybe hunter translate this - he is very cool in my book.

If you make many many observations - then 1/3 1/4 1/5 1/6 1/7 of the correction is what you will see and get - greed make it fail.

With the simulation software it use two methods among others i mention.

Singels contra series is what your Ecart simulation software will let you run.

There is no point looking at if a serie makes 2 3 4 or even 100 reds in a row - skip it.

Same apply for series contra singels - it is just reverse.

There is three things wish i mention above in previos posts.

Stronger

Weaker

Hovering

End

Indication

Tendency

So when singels alternating and give you a strong Ecart with at least 3.0 - an momentum of a window with in the first 100 trails - then for the next 200 there will be correction - any one is free to prove me wrong and load as much data you want.

The issue is how we define correction - hovering is a state when it stop and end growing and is an part of correction and the draw-downs are an direct effect of correction.

I will run some simulations and show you the flow of the correction and the random behavior - soon.

Note the software also following one rule wish is that it only allow two series to chop twice or less with in an Ecart of 3.0 or above.

O_o

Mellis · Juli 25, 2010

Now before i start to post different observations i would make some-things clear.

1) Here we deal with singels contra series - what does that mean ?

a) That singels is more present then series - series are less present then singels.

b) It is an 1/2 situation if we just view singels and series - same as red and black - but we use the observation of the law of series.

c) We can measuring the waves and use probability with an comfort delay - relax and observe and only attack depending on mehtod - end - indication - tendency.

d) We can confirm with significant statistical sampels that correction exist - if we use and isolate it to an playing model wish follow certan rules and agree on that the two state of waves out of three is an part of correction.

2) The three waves and state that we have to deal with using this exampel with singels contra series is as follows.

a) We have to find a strong state with singels wish hit an Ecart at 3.0 or above - where no series with in that window has appers more then twice at most.

b) Then we look for the others state to apper - hovering and series to chop.

Illustration of the state hovering.

RRR B RRRR B RRRR

or

BBB R BB R BBBBBBBBBBBBBBB R BBBB

Illustration of the state of series to chop.

RRR BB RRRR BBB RR BBBBBB

or

BBBB RRR BB RRRRRRR BBB

3) The question is - would we aim for an direct correction using indications and attack or would we use tendency play and attack after fictive winning bet.

a) The andvantage with indication attack is that small states appers regulary and can be capturing with only two small or large bets.

c) The andvantage with tendency attack is that at some moment the correction will apper - but it can become an bumpy ride.

Next i will post exampel of indication attacks and tendency attacks as i mention above - just wanted to post some basics first.

O_o

Mellis · Juli 26, 2010

Flat betting and using a specific march to capture correlation of correction - this is just ILLUUSTRATION FOR YOU TO DEVELOP YOUR OWN OBSERVATION -i just post this to give you an hint.

1) This march is based upon one simpel idea and has not been testd - this exampel is juat an part of an existing march and its not complete - i dont give away complete work that has been done - it is private.

2) The rule for this march is as follows. After an Ecart pass or are at 3.0 and end with a serie - you attack and play there will be one more serie as a part of an short state of correction of two series to chop - if a loss you place a new bet that the distribution will start to hovering and that the Ecart wont grow any more.

Formations.

R

B

B Place a bet.

or

R

B

R

R Place a bet.

That is the first attack with two attempts out of a toatal of 6 attempts.

If the first attack end at break even point you continue until you reach +1 unit or a loss of -2 units.

3) If the first attack fails you will wait for one hovering state and a chop - wish is a state of two elements to indicate tendeny or you will wait for two series to chop - when this indication of tendency state appers you are allow to attack for the secound time - using two bets and follow the march mentioning above - same betting behavior - the goal is to gain +1 or end up with a loss with -2 units.

If the secound attempt fails you repeat the same attack again - until you have a total loss of 6 attempts or -6 units as a total loss.

Some times the winning has a sharp edge using this method - wish is under construction and only for illustration for you to learn how the distribution unfold and how there might exist others ways then does i mention.

Short test - sampel 10000 - 6 attempt using the march above - flat betting.

+1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 -6 +1 +1 +1

Won +20

Loss -6

Total gain +14

O_o

Mellis · Juli 26, 2010

I should also mention that a state of two hovering formations also apply for attack as formation and first attack fail.

Here is todays random org 2010 07 26 with sampel size 10 000.

Flat betting result with 6 attempts using the simpel idea of a march above.

+1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 -6 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1

Won +25

Loss -6

Total gain +19

Advance strategys.

Is to use 7 unit bet size and after +1 lower the bets to a 3 unit bet size - that will allow you to place two more bets / one more attack with out losing.

If you after +7 would use 33 for one more attack and lose you will still won +1 and if you win be up +9.

If a win you could again lower your bet size to 1 and play one more attack using 11 and as above after the first +7 you could never lose having a free ride for two more attempts to ride the correlation of correction.

O_o

Mellis · Juli 26, 2010

This is theory.

Lets assume you would only use one option as singels contra series and not aim to track down all - then there will be a delay for betting oppertunites.

The andvantage of using one tracking method only for a certan state of the distribution is that you limit fluctation to destry your play.

As with the playing model to isolate and know what will happen in the future to a certan degree of high probabilty based upon signigicant statistical data.

It would also apply to isolate one state of the distribution to one isolated variance of fluctation.

Multy methods attacks could correlate many situation of fluctations - wish you would like to limit.

Is it worth it if you find a way and can verify with statistics.

Well it depends on if some one use 70 Euro units as base bet size or 100 Euro as base bet.

+1 unit add up to serios money - if a postive expectation exist - but i am not here to claim there is an edge or andvantage.

I am only her to share some basics regarding even money bets.

Now i will end this topic - but if there is questions i will be happy to help out.

O_o

Mellis · Juli 27, 2010

My personal favorite is series contra singels.

R-2.24	E 1.51	L 1.02
R-1.96	E 1.51	L 1.21
B-1.96	E 1.51	L 1.21
B-1.71	O 1.51	L 1.21
R-1.71	E 1.30	L 1.21
R-1.46	O 1.10	L 1.21
B-1.46	E 0.90	H 1.21
B-1.22	E 1.06	H 1.41
R-1.22	O 1.06	L 1.41
R-1.00	E 0.88	H 1.15
R-1.00	O-0.85	L 0.89
R-1.00	O 0.87	L 1.09
R-1.00	O 0.87	H 1.09
B-1.00	O 0.87	H 1.28
B 0.85	O 0.87	H 1.28
B 0.85	E 0.87	H 1.28
B 0.85	E 1.00	L 1.28
B 0.85	E 1.00	L 1.46
B 0.85	E 1.00	H 1.46
R 0.85	E 1.00	L 1.22
R 0.88	O 1.00	L 1.40
R 0.88	E 0.85	L 1.40
R 0.88	E 0.97	H 1.40
B 0.88	E 0.97	L 1.18
B 1.02	E 0.97	L 1.35
B 1.02	O 0.97	H 1.35
B 1.02	E 0.80	H 1.51
B 1.02	O-1.00	H 1.51
B 1.02	E-1.21	L 1.51
B 1.02	E-1.00	L 1.67
R 1.02	E-1.00	L 1.67
B 0.87	O-1.00	L 1.67
B 1.00	O-1.00	H 1.67
R 1.00	O-1.00	H 2.00
R 1.21	O-1.00	L 2.00
R 1.21	O-1.00	L 2.18
B 1.21	E-1.00	L 2.18
B 1.50	E 0.90	H 2.18
B 1.50	O 0.90	L 1.89
R 1.50	O 1.04	H 1.61
R 2.00	O 1.04	H 1.79
B 2.00	O 1.04	L 1.79
B 2.50	O 1.04	H 1.53
R 2.50	O 1.04	L 1.33
B 2.50	E 1.04	L 1.48
B 3.00	O 0.88	H 1.48  */37
R 3.00	O 1.02	L 1.30  */38
R 3.15	O 1.02	H 1.12  */39
B 3.15	O 1.02	L 0.95  */40
B 3.30	E 1.02	H 0.78  */41
B 3.30	E 1.15	H 0.93  */42
R 3.30	O 1.15	H 0.93  */42
B 
R 7 +7
B 3 +10
R 1 +11

O_o

Optimierer · Juli 27, 2010

Hello Mellis,

Thank you for your explanation of Marigny's results. You seem to have read his "book" or whatever it is. I heard it's not avaiable any more?

Rumors say the original is locked away somewhere at Monte Carlo or so...

What I had heard before is just that the aim is one unit per attack – according to the book's title – and that one must find a strong ecart first.

Well, that's what you explained here :kaffeepc: . I played around a bit with your software and so far the stategy seems to work :

I just click "find next" and then I start betting after the end of a serie, hoping that another serie of at least length two will immediately follow. If the first bet is won, I stop (+1 unit = mission accomplished) and I hit "find next" again. Otherwise I continue betting on the last appearing outcome after the end of a serie, e.g.

... alternating...

b

r

b

r <- Software stops with this

r <-no bet on this one, might still be alternating

b <-but after this one, because serie r has ended:

...1 unit on black expecting another serie :kaffeepc:

Reaching -2 units in such an attack I stop as well and I start again by clicking "find next".

As mentioned before, this really seems to work fine so far. Of course one cannot say very much about it after just half an hour of testing.

But with this you are definitely right:

Lets assume you would only use one option as singels contra series and not aim to track down all - then there will be a delay for betting oppertunites.

100'000 Coups were indeeed consumed very quickly with a setting of "From 40 To 50" in your software. I guess one can hardly play nothing but this strategy in a real casino. It could easily take years to get +100 units, right?

Optimierer

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Mellis · Juli 27, 2010

Thanks for a very nice post.

The distribution is in a "state" wish is "isolated" with in the first "100 trails" <<< This mean that any one can prove with singnigicant statistcal sampel that "correlation of correction exist for the next 200 trails".

1) If that is the truth and a fact we have an degree how high probability to actualy know what will apper in the future with out using an crystal ball.

a) That is if we agree on that the "state" or waves of hovering and seris to chop is part of correction - the correlation of two state of the distrubution wish apper with no doubts after an Ecart at 3.0 or above - even less can be used around 2.5.

When i post a simpel suggestion for observation i just want to post one easy way how to capture bouth state with two bets - nothing advance.

You are correct when you assume that one good way is to attack only once with one unit - to capture a short state of correction.

After that attack it should be based upon tendency play - wish mean that you wait for two series to chop - as that would be a stronger indication for a tendency to a draw-down - wish also would only be one unit.

If a loss repeat the last tendency again with a total aim with 3 units.

This march above does not work - it has a to large variance.

Building an march and capture correlation of correction is about playing safe and the only option to do so is to find a way to capture two state.

But aim for singels attack with only one unit is also good as it limits the amounts of attempts to capture +1 unit.

It makes me happy that you show intresst in this - because this is the very best work that has been done regarding even money bets.

I have statistics that show a net gain of 5000 Euro with 4 weeks of play - but that is papper work.

Capture a short state as an direct effect of correction after an strong ecart is more in line with gambling.

One could wait for chops of two states before and attack and repeat does until +1 unit.

One could use many different options.

+1 is serios money - placing 700 Euro with La Partage Rule with a % on zero - then it is not pean nuts any more and no need for many betting signals during 4 weeks of observation and tracking.

It is actualy about getting +3 but that is advance strategy - but with a good option for capitilation of money.

+7 that allow you to place two more bets 33 and if +1 again you are up +10 and you can never lose as after your first +7 you will allways be at least +1 if you lose your free ride of 33 - wish and if end up +1 allow you to lower your bet once more to 11 and if +1 you have a net gain of +11.

The % on zero with reduce the 1100 Euro wish you earn - but again it is small pean nuts regarding the insurence you have to cover zero with the lower amount of money.

O_o

Mellis · Juli 28, 2010

Optimierer

1) Develop The March.

2) Get Statistics

There is a variation if some one use only one singel attack to capture or use two attempts to capture - benifits and down side.

The aim is +1 and that it should overcome the amount of attempts - if you succed you have an complete playing model.

2 4 6 8 10

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

I will show you some more exampels and put it in "code" mode with next post so you can follow different options.

O_o

Mellis · Juli 28, 2010

To understand this post you have to read previos posts.

Aim with singel units attacks - here is a march i have not tested more then some short sampels around 100 000.

This is just a short sampel using one even money position to describe the march using one unit singel attacks - then notice you dont capture correlation of correction you capture raw correction as an direct oppisite effect - wish is more difficult.

1) You wait for the distribution after 3.0 or above stop hovering around values with up and downs with plus/minus 123 chops in any direction - being a wave or state where there is no significant tendency.

a) After four series chop in a row - then you wait it to end and wait for two new series to chop and attack once to gain +1 - if it fails you repeat the same attack two more times until you have a total loss of -3 units or a gain with +1 unit.

Even money.

Three attempts.

Random org 2010 07 26

Result: +1 -3 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1

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30

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R/B:Singles vs Series:SD=3.02:28 events
---------------------------------------

23   
7	
32   
34   
19   
   31
12   
   11
18   
   28
16   
   10
18   
   17
14   
1	
   35
30   
5	
1	
16   
16   
   17
3	
	4
   15
   10
3	
   13
	4
   11
	6
   29
	6
   31
19   
	8
   31
25   
   20
32   
   31
14   
   33
5	
   35  ***
 7
 1
   29
32
 7
 9
   15
   10
36
   22
14
25
 5
 7
   29
	2
 7
	4
   10
 5
12
23
30
23
   22
25
	2
 1
19
27
19
16
   35
	2
19
36
34
   22
18
 1
21
23
25
12
32
   13
19
   33
   15
   22
   15
16
   11
25
21
   33
   20
32
 7
	4
18
   28
   15
12
   33
 7
34
27
	2
12
	4
   22
	6
 1
   24
   22
   15
	2
	4
14
   24
23
   29
   20
 5
   13
 7
 7
   31
   10
   20
   29
   28
12
30
   11
23
 1
   13
   10
   35
 3
 3
18
 7
14
   33
30
	6
25
   20
	2
16
   10
 3
25
 5
   24
   26
 1
   33
   17
   29
34
	2
   26
   17
 3
   17
25
34
   20
	4
	4
14
   29
32
14
36
	4
   13
   13
18
23
 1
30
30
 1
	4
 9
18
   24
19
23
	8
34
   13
   17
25
   28
14
18
   28
   15
   10
   15
   17
36
 5
   15
23
30
   15
   10
   13
   26
12
30
   31
	2
   10
16
	8
   17
   10
16
   13
 7
30
	6
 5
   15
   28
 9
 3
21
   17
   17		+1

O_o

Mellis · Juli 28, 2010

This march i mention does not work - but is good for study and observations.

This is the same as above but you attack after the first serie to apper after four series as tendency indication.

+1 +1 +1 -3 +1 +1 +1

---------------------------------------
R/B:Singles vs Series:SD=3.04:39 events
---------------------------------------

16   
	8
16   
   22
34   
3	
	2
   17
25   
   11
19   
19   
   10
1	
27   
18   
16   
12   
   10
14   
   24
   31
   24
25   
12   
32   
   17
19   
	6
9	
   13
3	
   20
32   
27   
   10
16   
   26
14   
1	
32   
   35
5	
14   
   24
36   
1	
   20
7	
   22
23   
   11
9	
   20
16	 ***
30
 3
30
34
   22
   15
   15
   26
19
 7
   35
 5
   31
 5
18
   24
   35
19
34
 7
19
   24
   11
 5
34
	4
18
25
19
   17
   26		+1

---------------------------------------
R/B:Singles vs Series:SD=3.06:47 events
---------------------------------------

   13
27   
	2
   11
27   
   15
7	
	4
16   
   22
	8
   11
   22
   29
32   
   15
12   
12   
   10
34   
	8
   33
   29
   33
34   
9	
7	
18   
19   
19   
   20
36   
   33
	8
   33
   22
21   
   11
   33
9	
   31
25   
	2
   29
   13
	4
23   
	6
   10
23   
   33
   31
   10
34   
   17
	2
   24
   20
	2
   33
16   
   17
16   
	6
18   
   11
   22
19   
   20
3	
   24
5	
14   
36   
25   
3	
14   
30   
   24
34   
   24
34   
   22  ***
	2
   15
14
14
 7
   24
 3
16
23
   10
 9
 3
19
	8
25
25
14
	4
   28
30
	8
19
21
   17
32
34
	2
 1
	2
   17
   13
   29
   11
14
12
 1
19
   13
   11
18
27
21
	4
 7
	6
   28
32
21		+1

---------------------------------------
R/B:Singles vs Series:SD=3.13:20 events
---------------------------------------

   31
   29
19   
   10
7	
	4
21   
   13
7	
   29
	8
25   
	6
25   
	8
21   
3	
	2
   13
   13
   10
   10
   15
32   
   10
9	
   31
1	
	4  ***
   31
   31
30
19
	6
   35
23
12
36
27
	8
	2
12
30
   22
16
 7
23
   33
 1		-1
   17
   10
30
12		+0
   35
   24		+1

---------------------------------------
R/B:Singles vs Series:SD=3.00:16 events
---------------------------------------

12   
30   
3	
36   
32   
   28
5	
   10
7	
	6
7	
36   
   20
27   
19   
14   
14   
   28
1	
   11
25   
   28
27   
   11
34	 ***
   13
   15
 7
19
23
	8
   20
 7
 9
   11
   22
   15
   20
   29
36
18
	4
   10
 3
   26		-1
23
30
   20
14		-2
32
	8
12		-3
25
32
21
 5
   22
	2
   31
   20
16
   33
16
27
	8
   29
   33
 5
 7
14
   20
	6

---------------------------------------
R/B:Singles vs Series:SD=3.13:20 events
---------------------------------------

16   
   26
12   
   35
   11
1	
   15
36   
   28
5	
   28
5	
   17
5	
25   
   17
27   
32   
   22
7	
   15
5	
   31  ***
	6
	6
 9
   28
   10
30
14
19
25
   31
14
12
18
 5
   35
	2
   31
   10
16
   33
16
   13
   11
34
36
18
27
   11
27
	2
30
   26
19
19
12
   26
	6
16
   35
   26
   33
	2
   15
   29
16
16
25
   31
   33
   20
   28
	6
19
36
	2
18
36
   29
   35		+1

---------------------------------------
R/B:Singles vs Series:SD=3.00:16 events
---------------------------------------

30   
30   
	8
25   
   26
12   
32   
   22
18   
   15
9	
   24
27   
30   
1	
14   
27   
   20
7	
	6
27   
   15
32	 ***
18
27
   24
19
 7
	4
   33
	4
	4
36
   13
   11
   13
 9
	6
   10
14
   24
   28
   33
	8
   13
 3
 9
   29
	6
18
   26
30
 1
12
	6
32
   20
18
   10
27
19
19
25
19
30
36
 3
   24
   17
   20
18
27
 3
25
27
27
   20
   35
36
 5
18
   22
34
 5
	8
	4		+1

---------------------------------------
R/B:Singles vs Series:SD=3.02:28 events
---------------------------------------

23   
7	
32   
34   
19   
   31
12   
   11
18   
   28
16   
   10
18   
   17
14   
1	
   35
30   
5	
1	
16   
16   
   17
3	
	4
   15
   10
3	
   13
	4
   11
	6
   29
	6
   31
19   
	8
   31
25   
   20
32   
   31
14   
   33
5	
   35  ***
 7
 1
   29
32
 7
 9
   15
   10
36
   22
14
25
 5
 7
   29
	2
 7
	4
   10
 5
12
23
30
23
   22
25
	2
 1
19
27
19
16
   35
	2
19
36
34
   22
18
 1
21
23
25
12
32
   13
19
   33
   15
   22
   15
16
   11
25
21
   33
   20
32
 7
	4
18
   28
   15
12
   33
 7
34
27
	2
12
	4
   22
	6
 1
   24
   22
   15
	2
	4
14
   24
23
   29
   20
 5
   13
 7
 7
   31
   10
   20
   29
   28
12
30
   11
23
 1
   13
   10
   35
 3
 3
18
 7
14
   33
30
	6
25
   20
	2
16
   10
 3
25
 5
   24
   26
 1
   33
   17
   29
34
	2
   26
   17
 3
   17
25
34
   20
	4
	4
14
   29
32
14
36
	4
   13
   13
18
23
 1
30
30
 1
	4
 9
18
   24
19
23
	8
34
   13
   17
25
   28
14
18
   28
   15
   10
   15
   17
36
 5
   15
23
30
   15
   10
   13
   26
12
30
   31
	2
   10
16
	8
   17
   10
16
   13		-1
 7
30
	6
 5
   15
   28
 9
 3		+0
21
   17
   17		+1
 3
   24
   22
21
21
   13
14
19
12
	4
 3
34
	8
 1
   35

We will compare this with using correlation correction using two attempts and not singel attempts to gain +1.

If you find a way - i should aslo mention that you can end one attack at +0 if there is no direct gain of +1.

=_0

Mellis · Juli 29, 2010

This post is for does who not can understand or make there own observation and develop a march - so her it is on a silver plate - but you have to verify it with your own statistics.

Note.

This is flat betting with a total of four attempts.

The march can develop to using attmepts around 4 6 8 10 steps to find different variance - but my short test show the cut goes around four and six.

1) Rule number one is to wait for two series to chop, the formation of two seris look like this RRRBBB and after that formation appers you attack twice and gain +1 unit.

If you don´t get a straight hit with three series in a row like this RRRBBRR you will have the following formation RRRBBRRB and aim for it to hovering with your secound bet RRRBBRRBRRRR if at zero you just follow the betting behavior, the march, until +1 or -2 being your first attack.

2) If you dont get two series to chop as i mention above you make your first attack when a state of hovering appers and it looks like this RRRBRRR and play that next formation will be followed with a serie like this RRRBRRRBB if not you will have the following formation RRRBRRRBR and would play it will continue to hovering and ride it out until +1 or -2 being your first attack.

3) If first attack fail you would repeat the betting singals above for one more attack with the difference that you dont aim to win +1 and now aim to break even because that would give you one less formation of correction wish appers more regulary then an longer correction to end up with +1 and this is a way to make the play more stabel with good results.

Result:

+1 +1 +0 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +0 +1 +1 +0 +1 -4 +1 +1 +1 +0 +1 +1 +1 +1 +0 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1

31 won

4 loss

27 total gain

Previos post you could read about isolate with one even money postition to limit variance of fluctation - wish this results are based upon.

Random org 2010 07 - 25 - 26 - 27 - 28

O_o

Mellis · Juli 29, 2010

Note.

It is still on experiment state - wish is base upon 3x2 chops indications wish also is based upon correlation of correction.

I have not test this for Ecart around 2.0 or 2.5 wish also could be an option.

=_0

Mellis · Juli 31, 2010

Does any one get negative results :kaffeepc:

Mellis · Juli 31, 2010

Flat betting - Advance strategy 731

random org 20100725 / +8 +11 -28 +1 +11 +11 +11 +1 / won +54 units / loss -28 units / total gain +26 units

random org 20100726 / +1 +1 +11 +11 +8 +11 +1 / won +44 units / loss -0 units / total gain +44 units

random org 20100727 / +1 +1 +1 -28 +11 -28 +1 +8 +11 -28 / won 34 units / loss -48 units / total gain -14 units

random org 20100728 / +11 +11 +8 +11 +11 +11 +8 +11 +1 +1 +11 +11 / won 106 units / loss -0 / total gain +106

Result: +162 units

Won 176 units / loss -14 units / total net gain 162 units

Note.

With reduce of % on zero during play.

Mellis · Juli 31, 2010

Sorry the caculation was wrong i miss one -28 hehehe as that would matter LOL

Flat betting - Advance strategy 731

random org 20100725 / +8 +11 -28 +1 +11 +11 +11 +1 / won +54 units / loss -28 units / total gain +26 units

random org 20100726 / +1 +1 +11 +11 +8 +11 +1 / won +44 units / loss -0 units / total gain +44 units

random org 20100727 / +1 +1 +1 -28 +11 -28 +1 +8 +11 -28 / won 34 units / loss -84 units / total gain -50 units

random org 20100728 / +11 +11 +8 +11 +11 +11 +8 +11 +1 +1 +11 +11 / won 106 units / loss -0 / total gain +106

Result: +92 units

Won 176 units / loss -84 units / total net gain 92 units

Note.

With reduce of % on zero during play.

Now it should be correct i just do things so quick as i just enjoy it.

Assume 70 Euro units then we have 920 Euro and with 700 Euro units we would have 9200 Euro.

Anmelden

Marigny and the Ecart

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