Poker-Premiere in der Spielbank Bad Neuenahr

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PRESSEINFORMATION

24.04.2007

Das Poker-Fieber erreicht auch die Spielbank

Poker feiert Premiere in der Spielbank Bad Neuenahr

Bad Neuenahr. Am 1. Mai ist es soweit: Poker-Interessierte können erstmals auch in der Spielbank Bad Neuenahr Poker in der Variante „Texas Hold´em No Limit“ spielen.

Zum Spielstart am 1. Mai und danach regelmäßig freitags und samstags wird in der Spielbank neben Roulette und Black Jack nunmehr auch gepokert. Mit der Einführung dieses populären Kultspiels reagiert die Spielbank auf die starke Nachfrage insbesondere von jüngeren Spielbankgästen. Ob im Internet, Fernsehen oder bei zahlreichen mehr oder weniger legalen Poker-Turnieren zeigt sich, dass der aus Amerika kommende Poker-Boom auch in Deutschland ungebrochen ist.

Spielbankchef Seegert reagiert mit dieser Initiative auf die Nachfragen von Pokerbegeisterten, die seit Monaten ein solches Spielangebot auch in den dafür prädestinierten Spielbanken fordern: „Die anhaltende Begeisterung und die unzähligen Nachfragen nach Poker haben uns veranlasst, dieses spannende Kartenspiel künftig auch in der legeren und gepflegten Atmosphäre unserer Spielbank anzubieten.“

Zunächst an einem Cash Table wird freitags und samstags die Variante „Texas Hold´em No Limit“ angeboten. Geschäftsführung und Mitarbeiter der Spielbank sind sehr gespannt, ob die tatsächliche Nachfrage die Erwartungen erfüllen wird.

Hier die wichtigsten Regeln auf einen Blick:

• Variante: Texas Hold´em No Limit

• Spielform: Cash Table

• Spieltage: Freitag und Samstag

• Spielzeit: 19.00 Uhr bis 2.00 Uhr

• Tischeröffnung: ab 4 Teilnehmern

• Buy-In: 100 Euro

• Small Blind: 5 Euro

• Big Blind: 10 Euro

• Taxe: 5 Euro ab einem Pot von 100 Euro

Poker Flyer der Spielbank Bad Neuenahr

Quelle: Sandra Berns, Spielbank Bad Neuenahr

[Michi o_0]

cool, vorallem der niedrige Rake.

Aber max. Buy in 40BBs Stört gewaltig...

Nja, is wahrsch. eh erst ab 21^^

[Berni]

Der Eintritt in die Spielbank Bad Neuenahr ist ab 18 Jahren möglich. Es gibt nur wenige Spielbanken, die noch das Eintrittalter ab 21 Jahren haben.

Berni

[Michi o_0]

ganz bayern

aber hab jetz mal geschaut, die Spielbank is eh ganz wo anders..

[PsiPlayer]

Ich fand einen interessanten Beitrag von John Scarne,

der die 5% Taxe unter die Lupe nimmt.

Man braucht nur die obigen Einsatz-Werte einzusetzen

und man kommt hinter den Betrug!

Um nicht missverstanden zu werden,

zitiere ich aus dem englischen Original-Text seines Buches

SCARNE ON CARDS (1974) und hoffe das ihn jemand

vernünftig übersetzen kann:

BUCKING A 5 PER CENT CUT IN A HOUSE GAME

I don’t care if you are the best Stud player in the country; if you play in a house game with rank suckers and the house takes a cut of 5 per cent of the pot from a winner, you must go broke if you play often enough.

Contrary to the operator’s claim that the charge is 5 per cent, it is much greater, and at times it amounts to 10 per cent. Poker is one of the very few games where the house takes a cut not only on the player’s winnings, but also on the winnung player’s money.

For example:

Four Stud players play an entire hand to the showdown, the pot totals $20, and the house takes a 5 per cent cut or $1. The winner of the pot has paid a cut of 5 per cent on his own $5, the money he had to gamble to win. Therefore, the house is actually taking a cut of 6 2/3 per cent on that player’s winnings.

Suppose two players play a hand to the showdown. The pot totals $20. The cut amounts to $1, same as in the four-handed game. In this case the house is extracting a 10 per cent cut.

In order to have a nucleus of hard fact to work with, I clocked thirty different Stud games for a period of one month. The betting limit in these games ranged from $2 to $5. After these clockings were averaged, I got the following approximate answers:

1. That it takes about one and one-half minutes to play an average hand.

2. That in a fast Stud game, approximately forty hands are dealt out per hour.

3. That the average pot contains about $10 on the showdown (using the two above betting limits in my Clockings).

To prove how strong the 5 per cent cut is over a Poker session, let us take a six-handed game. The limit is $2; the average hand will take one and one-half minutes to play; we have played forty hands in an hour’a play.

The average pot contains $10; the operator takes a cut (charge) of 5 per cent totaling 50cent on the average pot for a total of $20 per hour. The game lasts six hours, giving the operator a $120 cut for the six hours.

Let us assume that each player entered the game with $30 and luck, or the law of averages equalized itself for each player. The total money all the players possessed at the start of the game was $180. The total cut is $120. Now there is only $60 left in the game; or each player has paid 66 2/3 per cent of his original amount, meaning that he has paid a cut of $20 out of the original $30, leaving him $10.

Should that game last eight hours, which plenty of Stud games do, and should only two players be left (meaning that the rest have gone broke), these players have only $20 between them – the operator has taken a charge of $160 out of the original $180. In other words, the house’s cut amounted to 88 8/9 per cent of the total amount during the night! Believe it or not, there are millions of Stud players who try to win under these conditions. Just imagine if you play Stud two or three nights or so a week – what percentage you pay the operator!

There are numerous operators who are not satisfied with the 5 per cent and who often steal an extra amount from the pot. This is usually done when making change or taking out the cut, and the active player who wins the pot is so happy to win he seldom notices the operator has taken the cut not to mention the extra amount*.

It is difficult to see the logic of the operators of Poker games. If they lowered their cut to 2 or 3 per cent, they would have a Poker game going most of the time. But as it is, they break most of the players in a few weeks, then wonder why they no longer have a game.

Many Poker players who stay away for a while try to figure out why they went broke. Often they think they were cheated. Maybe they were; as a rule that 5 per cent did the trick. But they eventually come back again, trying to buck the impossible. (Seite 103-104)

* Nachtfalke würde vielleicht “Tronc” dazu sagen.

bearbeitet April 26, 2007 von PsiPlayer

[jackpot54]

hallo psi,

je höher der pot, je niedriger der drop...think about it!

Ich fand einen interessanten Beitrag von John Scarne,

der die 5% Taxe unter die Lupe nimmt.

Man braucht nur die obigen Einsatz-Werte einzusetzen

und man kommt hinter den Betrug!

Um nicht missverstanden zu werden,

zitiere ich aus dem englischen Original-Text seines Buches

SCARNE ON CARDS (1974) und hoffe das ihn jemand

vernünftig übersetzen kann:

BUCKING A 5 PER CENT CUT IN A HOUSE GAME

I don’t care if you are the best Stud player in the country; if you play in a house game with rank suckers and the house takes a cut of 5 per cent of the pot from a winner, you must go broke if you play often enough.

Contrary to the operator’s claim that the charge is 5 per cent, it is much greater, and at times it amounts to 10 per cent. Poker is one of the very few games where the house takes a cut not only on the player’s winnings, but also on the winnung player’s money.

For example:

Four Stud players play an entire hand to the showdown, the pot totals $20, and the house takes a 5 per cent cut or $1. The winner of the pot has paid a cut of 5 per cent on his own $5, the money he had to gamble to win. Therefore, the house is actually taking a cut of 6 2/3 per cent on that player’s winnings.

Suppose two players play a hand to the showdown. The pot totals $20. The cut amounts to $1, same as in the four-handed game. In this case the house is extracting a 10 per cent cut.

In order to have a nucleus of hard fact to work with, I clocked thirty different Stud games for a period of one month. The betting limit in these games ranged from $2 to $5. After these clockings were averaged, I got the following approximate answers:

1. That it takes about one and one-half minutes to play an average hand.

2. That in a fast Stud game, approximately forty hands are dealt out per hour.

3. That the average pot contains about $10 on the showdown (using the two above betting limits in my Clockings).

To prove how strong the 5 per cent cut is over a Poker session, let us take a six-handed game. The limit is $2; the average hand will take one and one-half minutes to play; we have played forty hands in an hour’a play.

The average pot contains $10; the operator takes a cut (charge) of 5 per cent totaling 50cent on the average pot for a total of $20 per hour. The game lasts six hours, giving the operator a $120 cut for the six hours.

Let us assume that each player entered the game with $30 and luck, or the law of averages equalized itself for each player. The total money all the players possessed at the start of the game was $180. The total cut is $120. Now there is only $60 left in the game; or each player has paid 66 2/3 per cent of his original amount, meaning that he has paid a cut of $20 out of the original $30, leaving him $10.

Should that game last eight hours, which plenty of Stud games do, and should only two players be left (meaning that the rest have gone broke), these players have only $20 between them – the operator has taken a charge of $160 out of the original $180. In other words, the house’s cut amounted to 88 8/9 per cent of the total amount during the night! Believe it or not, there are millions of Stud players who try to win under these conditions. Just imagine if you play Stud two or three nights or so a week – what percentage you pay the operator!

There are numerous operators who are not satisfied with the 5 per cent and who often steal an extra amount from the pot. This is usually done when making change or taking out the cut, and the active player who wins the pot is so happy to win he seldom notices the operator has taken the cut not to mention the extra amount*.

It is difficult to see the logic of the operators of Poker games. If they lowered their cut to 2 or 3 per cent, they would have a Poker game going most of the time. But as it is, they break most of the players in a few weeks, then wonder why they no longer have a game.

Many Poker players who stay away for a while try to figure out why they went broke. Often they think they were cheated. Maybe they were; as a rule that 5 per cent did the trick. But they eventually come back again, trying to buck the impossible. (Seite 103-104)

* Nachtfalke würde vielleicht “Tronc” dazu sagen.

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